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Edited Upon Request

September 6, 2006

“To speak his thoughts is every freeman’s right, in peace and war, in council and in fight.” — Homer, The Iliad

“What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist.” — Salman Rushdie

“The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error.” — John Stuart Mill, On Liberty


#1 Comment By Kell On September 7, 2006 @ September 7, 2006

Wow, real nice, I know this kind of stuff will happen when you post your pictures online, but wow, whatever did I do to deserve such nasty comments? I do not want to get into porn, I just enjoy making costumes and hanging out with my friends. Nor do I think I’m sexy. Yes, I am a dork, I will easily admit that, otherwise I wouldn’t go to cons and wear costumes, etc. I just don’t get why you would want to say such cruel things about some innocent person just out there minding their own business.

#2 Comment By taerar On September 7, 2006 @ September 7, 2006

I think that She-ra is pretty damn fugly TBO.

#3 Comment By Lister On September 7, 2006 @ September 7, 2006

If you are really Kell, then I must say you weren’t entirely minding your own business. As you said, this kind of stuff does happen when you post your picture online.

That said, if I were you, I wouldn’t take my comments for much of anything. I thought it obvious that they were made in jest, malicious jest perhaps, but jest nonetheless. I consider myself to be a geek. This is just another glass house on the interweb.

Seriously, please don’t be offended by my rambings. If you read the rest of the site, you would see that I am just a good old fashdioned butthole. I make lite of just about everything. Myself included. The geek postings are yet to be complete, and it’s entirely possible that I might end up as a subject of ridicule as well.

Finally, if you are really Kell, and you are still upset with my post, I would be willing to delete the post if you so desire.

#4 Comment By Kryten On September 7, 2006 @ September 7, 2006

Hey Kell…I don’t like the name Kell, can I call you K? Great! K, people get made fun of all the time. I would put this type of humor in the area of a roast. I just saw the roast of William Shatner, it was hillarious. Just to give myself a little nerd cred, I play DnD, Vampire, Werewolf, Star Wars, and Gurps. Also i have been to one convention, coincidentally the guest speaker there was George Takei and I saw him. I was like, “look over there it’s George Takei. Thats Sulu’s ass.” I meant to go to when he was speaking, but was busy playing war with foam swords. If thats not geeky, I don’t know what is. I say coincidentally cause George was on the roast. So the point I’m tryin to make here is what is it that the person getting made fun of on a roast does at the end of the show? He makes fun of all the people on the panel right back. That would be the proper response here. You could say something like…Lister, I bet you are a fat virgin that lives in his parents basement watching Star Wars masterbating to the scene where Luke and Leia kiss. Which of course you would have no evidence to suggest that, but thats the whole point. Its about having fun. So if you don’t want to be the butt of a joke then perhaps you shouldn’t make it so easy. Like I say, I went to a con. I didn’t then post pictures of myself holding a metaphorical target with a sign pointing at me saying “Open Season”. Well anyway, I’m not as articulate as Lister, but I agree with him about the dressing up. I dont wear a muscle shirt cause I’m fat. I don’t dress like Han Solo cause I’m fat and I have blonde hair. Blah Blah. Make fun of Lister, you’ll feel better. Then again you may not want to open that can of worms. Cause if you don’t make it good he’ll prolly return fire. Lastly, don’t take things so seriously. Especially something like this that isn’t serious. Have a good one K.

#5 Comment By tumbles On September 7, 2006 @ September 7, 2006

lister…dude, you’d better not be doing what that kryten guy said you were doing in my basement, ’cause that’s where my litterbox is and stuff…you have been warned.

#6 Comment By ListersNutts On September 7, 2006 @ September 7, 2006

Wait I should change my name because Kryten (wtf is that anyhow?) doesnt have any. There it is, KrytensNutts. Much better. I will be his nutts because he is already an asshole.

Lets disect this shall we? Take it like a roast…
At a said “roast”, you interact and play off of response and see peoples face and the knowing going into a “roast” is it will be comic-harsh, but no foul atmosphere. When you are pointed to or stumble upon this type of a blog with someone saying these type of things about you, how do you not take it personally? If I called you a fat ugly bastard sight unseen, how would you take it? Laugh? Good, more power to you. But on the other hand, dont defend people who blog in poor taste. Speaking of poor taste, wash that spunk out of your mouth.

Lister, I would have to commend you for being willing to remove your blog. The only thing that could make you a more “uber-geek” that you proudly proclaim to be would be to actually remove the post after realizing you insulted a fellow “geek”. If you are true geek and live by the pledge of Geeks Unite, then remove the post and all references to her, and stop blogging in the wee hours of the morning.

KNutt, I will call you that because you seem to like so much disrespect, go wash your face now, theres some stuff on your chin.

#7 Comment By Lister On September 8, 2006 @ September 8, 2006

This is more like it.

By the way, Nutts, you seem to have a bit of a fetish for semen. Do you like it covering your face 24/7, or do you just like drinking it?

#8 Comment By Listless On September 8, 2006 @ September 8, 2006

Surprising you made such an accusation of pretending to know what I was referring to.

Are you going to live up to your word?

#9 Comment By Lister On September 8, 2006 @ September 8, 2006


Who are you addressing, and on what points specifically?

#10 Comment By Listless On September 8, 2006 @ September 8, 2006

I am addressing you Lister. Are you going to delete your entire post in which you ripped apart this girl?

#11 Comment By Lister On September 8, 2006 @ September 8, 2006

I said that if the real Kell was still upset with the post, and wanted my to remove it then I would.

With that in mind, if she makes it known unto me that she is still upset, I would remove any direct reference to her in this post and any other posts on the blog.

I am still unaware of the meaning of this “sentence” you wrote: “Surprising you made such an accusation of pretending to know what I was referring to.”

What the hell does that mean?

#12 Comment By Listless On September 8, 2006 @ September 8, 2006

Addressing you again, you made a semen reference…wasnt even close, but shocking its the first thing that comes to your mind.

#13 Comment By Lister On September 8, 2006 @ September 8, 2006

How is that at all shocking given the fact that my type of humor/depravity has been clearly established?

Couple that with the fact that you wrote, “wash that spunk out of your mouth,” and “go wash your face now, theres some stuff on your chin.” Spunk is defined by as “Spirit; pluck. Considering it is also a vulgar term for semen, it is rarely used in its normal form due to the obviously easy possibility to misinterpret it.”

Both statements on your part can at least be looked upon as double entendres, and therefore my conclusion indicating that you had an obsession with semen is at least understandable if not justified.

By the way, since we have obviously dropped off into the deep end of semantics and lame-net debate, I never once asserted that I was an ‘“uber-geek”’ which you said, I “proudly proclaim.”

Furthermore, true geeks are geeks regardless of what anyone else thinks of them. In that respect, I could care less that you don’t approve of the vast quantities of semen or anything else dripping from my cock-gurgling chin.

#14 Comment By Tarc On September 8, 2006 @ September 8, 2006

Keel should be flattered that some guy is paying attention to her _at all_. A face like that would make any straight man prefer to go gay.

#15 Comment By Kell On September 8, 2006 @ September 8, 2006

I appreciate that you’re willing to remove the post – please do. I know this thing happens on the internet a lot, a lot of my friends have been very hurt by these sort of things before. It’s not a great way to start the day and see these sort of things written about you. So if you would, please, remove the post & pictures? Particularly the last since it does not belong to me, but to another photographer.
I will say I at least enjoyed the title “Duchess of Dork” )

#16 Comment By Guitarman On September 9, 2006 @ September 9, 2006

He removed the post K. Do you feel happy now. If it were me I would keep the posts up because I found them quite amusing and I’m sure that many people who visited this site also thought they were funny. Also you might get good publicity for yourself and your costumes by being on not only your site but also Lister’s. One reason that I laughed is because I realized that if you had a bald head, you would look like a character from the “Coneheads” movie. Am I sorry for laughing… ehmmm…. no because I am a jerk, plain and simple, and I am willing to admit that to myself. I was very sad when Lister promised to take down the posts. It is a sad day for blogging and for the Internet. I feel that if you can’t take a joke then what’s the point in even getting up in the morning, and walking out into the world. You have to realize K, that the posts were all made in jest.

#17 Comment By Kryten On September 9, 2006 @ September 9, 2006

I am confused. Lets dissect (if you can’t spell look it up, that’s what I did) your response to my post, ListersNutts or KrytensNutts or whatever unoriginal name you wish to call yourself. By the way, Kryten and Lister are characters from a British TV show called Red Dwarf. It is the theme of our online clan called BFTD (Boys from the Dwarf) for the game America’s Army. I recommend the show very much, and the game pisses me off a lot. It makes me angry sometimes because I do badly, and it is littered with people like you. Firstly, let me ask…did you read my post? If so, then would you be so kind as to point out at what point was I being an asshole or disrespectful. Secondly, to call someone names and then show yourself to epitomize (look it up) the same traits is…ironic and more to the point moronic. By way of proof, a quote : “KNutt, I will call you that because you seem to like so much disrespect, go wash your face now, theres some stuff on your chin.” Third, you do make a good point (I had to search for it) in that at a roast, the roastee of course knows that he or she will be the butt of many a joke that, in most cases, nearly everyone on the planet would take offence to at some point. That being said, this was simply an analogy. The meaning being that she shouldn’t take offence. I don’t agree with the attitude that she (if in fact it is her) took. Mean and hurtful things will be said about and done to everyone at some point in the life given to them; if you don’t want to be trampled on, you need to fight back instead of effectively saying “please don’t make fun of me”. As someone that has been made fun of in real life, I know that doesn’t work. While I am on the subject of attitudes I don’t agree with, I would like to tell Lister that I don’t think he should have offered a retraction in the first place, but I commend him for his character. Let no one say that he isn’t a man of his word. Fourth, I would like to think that I wouldn’t be upset by anything that was posted about me. In fact, I’m not mad now. This is because of one simple fact, you don’t know me. In order to be offended, I would have to believe the thing that was said, or be incredibly sensitive. I will continue to be who I am. Life will go on. My intention, in the original post, was not to offend (I’ll leave that to those much more proficient at it than myself. Such as Lister and Rimmer, the man that got us kicked out of more servers for abusive language than any other in our group), but to tell K that she shouldn’t be offended. Unless I am wrong, let me know Lister, this blog is supposed to be entertainment. For Lister, and hopefully to those like myself that like it. I will keep looking, and I am sure that you will too. To those that do get offended by this site, please use your free will and don’t look. I don’t consider this blog to be in bad taste, and I will defend or condemn the site as I like. If at some point in the future, I find that I don’t have fun reading here, then I won’t be likely to come back. Finally, I am sure that you will read this post, misunderstand, and write back with an ill-conceived and poorly constructed reply. You are probably looking for typos and misspelled words, or perhaps bad punctuation even as you read this. I say that because with a name like the one you used and your post in general I find you to be slow and uncreative. See? I don’t know you. What I say shouldn’t carry so much weight, but at least this time there was an actual insult. Take it as you wish; I’m sure you’ll find something stupid to say.


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